You know I wonder how the colonization of India will play out in this time line. In OTL Britain depended a lot on native rulers which led to the Princely States. However with Britain a Republic the options left to Britain are Full on conquest of the entirety of the subcontinent or staying satisfied with what they have which let's be honest is never going to happen.
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So, are these people Monarchs of Hannover only, or also of the United Provinces.Monarchs of Hanover after the end of the Personal Union.
- 1784-1837- William - Became King of Hanover in 1814
- 1837-1843 - Edward I
- 1843-1901 - Victoria - Salic law overturned due to concerns about her uncle, first in line for the throne, Prince Ernest August. While a female monarch wasn't the first choice of the Hanover Parliament, the liberal Victoria was greatly preferred over Ernest August when it became apparent that none of George III other living children wanted the throne.
- 1901-1910 - Edward II
- 1910-1936 - George IV
- 1936-1938 - Edward III - Killed during bombing by French forces
- 1940-1952 - George V - In Exile to 1945
- 1952-2022 - Victoria II - Elected Empress of the German Confederation in 1958
- 2022-present - George VI
So, are these people Monarchs of Hannover only, or also of the United Provinces.
Because the use of the name Edward seems to baffle me for a German royal house in the middle of Germany.
And it's not the same as a German royal house in England using that name...
Looks great.So, version 1
The Prime Ministers of the United Provinces of America
I would like any and all criticism, if you have your own ideas or figures you want to see used, suggest them!
Some notes
It was decided that Prime Minister should come from the commons to appease more radical American thinkers, though the ministry could be sourced from both houses. The current Baker ministry has more than a few peers in its ranks.
The federalists transform into the Loyalist Whig Party and a number of other factions. The so-called Peelites eventually became the Conservative.
After landslide losses in 1935 and 1940 FDR manages to unite the Liberal and Progressive into a single force. The Labour party. The progressives were an offshoot of the liberals that formed around FDR's cousin, two-time PM Teddy Roosevelt due to disagreements with the Liberal party over a number of policy areas
- 1788-1795 - George Nugent-Temple-Grenville - Home Province - New York - Party - Independent
- 1795-1801 - Henry Addington - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Federalist
- 1801-1817 - Alexander Hamilton - Home Province - New York - Party - Federalist
- 1817-1822 - Thomas Jefferson - Home Province - Virginia - Party - Democratic-Agrarian
- 1822-1827 - John Quincy Adams - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Democratic-Agrarian
- 1827-1835 - Martin Van Buren - Home Province - New York - Party - Democratic
- 1835-1838 - Robert Peel - Home Province - Connecticut - Party - Federalist
- 1838-1841 - John C. Calhoun - Home Province - South Carolina - Party - Democratic
- 1841-1845 - Henry Clay - Home Province - Kentucky - Party - Loyalist-Whig
- 1845-1849 - James K. Polk - Home Province - Tennessee - Party - Democratic - Note- Died in office
- 1849-1852 - James Buchanan - Home Province - Pennsylvania - Party - Democratic
- 1852-1856 - Charles Pelham Villiers - Home Province - Iowa - Party - Loyalist-Whig
- 1856-1861 - John C. Breckinridge - Home Province - Kentucky - Party - Democratic
- 1861-1865 - Abraham Lincoln - Home Province - Illinois - Party - Conservative - Note - Assassinated
- 1865-1868 - William H. Seward - Home Province - New York - Party - Conservative - Note - Forced from office by his own party over reconstruction and voting rights, and a poor electoral performance
- 1868-1878 - John A. Macdonald - Home Province - Canada - Party - Conservative
- 1878-1883 - Horatio Seymour - Home Province - New York - Party - Liberal
- 1883-1888 - Robert Todd Lincoln - Home Province - Illinois - Party - Conservative
- 1888-1892 -Robert M. La Follette - Home Province - Wisconsin - Party - Liberal
- 1892-1897 - Randolph Churchill - Home Province - New Jersey - Party - Conservative
- 1897-1901 - William McKinley - Home Province- Ohio - Party - Liberal - Note - Assassinated
- 1901-1906 - Theodore Roosevelt - Home Province - New York - Party - Liberal - Note - First Term
- 1906-1910 - Joseph Gurney Cannon - Home Province - Illinois - Party - Conservative
- 1910-1915 - Woodrow Wilson - Home Province - Ohio - Party - Liberal
1915-1919 - Theodore Roosevelt - Home Province - New York - Party - Progressive - Note - Second Term - Died in office- 1919-1923 - Hiram Johnson - Home Province - California - Party - Progressive
- 1923-1930 - Calvin Coolidge - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Conservative
- 1930-1932 - Cordell Hull - Home Province - Tennessee - Party - Liberal
- 1932-1935 - Franklin D. Roosevelt - Home Province - New York - Party - Liberal - Note - First Term
- 1935-1936 - Charles Curtis - Home Province - Kansas - Party - Conservative - Note - Died in office
- 1936-1941 - Charles L. McNary - Home Province - Oregon - Party - Conservative - Note - Forced from office after the Pearl Harbor bombing
- 1941-1946 - Winston Churchill - Home Province - New York - Party - Conservative
1946-1952 - Franklin D. Roosevelt - Home Province - New York - Party - Labour - Note - Second Term - Died in office- 1952-1960 - Earl Warren - Home Province - California - Party - Labour - Note - chose not to seek another term and resigned as leader of the Labour party ahead of the 1960 election.
- 1960-1963 - John F. Kennedy - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Labour - Note - Assassinated
- 1963-1968 - Hubert Humphrey - Home Province - Minnesota - Party - Labour
- 1968-1976 - Richard Nixon - Home Province - New Albion - Party - Conservative - Note - First Term
- 1976-1981 - Fidel Castro - Home Province - Cuba - Party - Labour
1981-1988 - Richard Nixon - Home Province - New Albion - Party - Conservative - Note - Second Term - Resigned due to age- 1988-1992 - George Bush - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Conservative
- 1992-1998 - Al Gore - Home Province - Tennessee - Party - Labour
- 1998-2002 - Jerry Brown - Home Province - New Albion - Party - Labour
- 2002-2006 - John Kasich - Home Province - Ohio - Party - Conservative
- 2006-2016 - Diana Spender - Home Province - Virginia - Party - Labour
- 2016-present - Charles Baker - Home Province - Massachusetts - Party - Conservative
On the topic of Nixon, I do have a dumb idea based on an infobox I made back in the summer.Looks great.
May I draft a suggested article for Nixon?
Great idea. I will incorporate that idea.On the topic of Nixon, I do have a dumb idea based on an infobox I made back in the summer.
Basically, during the Prince of Wales's visit to the White House, Richard Nixon really tried to set him up with his daughter Tricia Nixon. Now clearly this went nowhere, but it gave me an idea for something like that to actually happen ITTL. Clearly the American royal family is different from the OTL British royal family who are in Hanover, and I'm sure that a royal genealogy's already been decided, but it could be interesting to have the Nixons or even some other prominent PM's family marry into the Royal Family based on this historical tidbit.
If so, how are there some baronesses in the infobox?Barons lost the right to a seat, restricting membership to dukes, marquesses, earls, and viscounts
I think that should be left up to @Lewie , seeing as that's a pretty major element and it's his project.Great idea. I will incorporate that idea.
Tricia can marry a member from one of America’s royal dukedoms.I think that should be left up to @Lewie , seeing as that's a pretty major element and it's his project.
True. I just meant I would suggest it as part of my draft suggestion.I think that should be left up to @Lewie , seeing as that's a pretty major element and it's his project.
I don't think this has been addressed, but does George III still suffer from madness in his later years, or is that averted due to the other changes that have occurred?Good King George
George III (George William Frederick; 4 June 1738 – 29 January 1820) was the first King of the United Provinces of America reigning from 12 October 1784 to 29 January 1820, and the final monarch of Great Britain and Ireland from 25 October 1760 to 12 October 1784. He was concurrently Duke and Prince-elector of Brunswick-Lüneburg ("Hanover") until 1784 when he abdicated in favour of his son, William, having never visited the country. Known as Good King George in America and George the Tyrant in the British Isles, he remains the most controversial monarch in British History.
George's life and early reign were marked by a series of military conflicts involving his kingdoms, much of the rest of Europe, and places farther afield in Africa, the Americas and Asia. Early in his reign, Great Britain defeated France in the Seven Years' War, becoming the dominant European power in North America and India. Despite these upheavals abroad, domestically during much of this time, the King behaved as was expected of a constitutional monarch of the time. However, this would change drastically beginning in the 1760s when he began to insert himself into colonial policy towards America. George, who had displayed traits of quiet absolutism in his youth and afterwards, had developed a deep sympathy for the American position after coming into contact with Benjamin Franklin, and by the 1760s his court was "The Most American Place in London" as these connections furthered. His efforts to delay or alter acts in line with American concerns peaked with his refusal to grant royal ascent to the Massachusetts Government Act, which he regarded as tyrannical, and in opposition to the "Rights of Englishmen" These actions would eventually trigger the First British Civil War, as the Whig Party moved to remove a King they believed was overstepping his position. After a failed attempt to arrest him and place his elder son on the throne the King, who viewed these efforts as nothing short of treason, would respond by ordering the arrest of the coup plotters, Parliament would denounce this, and over the next several weeks both sides manoeuvred for control of the capital. The first true battle of the war would be the skirmish at Hyde Park, with matters only escalating from there.
In 1779, George was forced to flee to America, after the fall of London to Parliamentary forces. Arriving in the colonies, he would oversee the defeat of Parlimarety forces in America, the appointment of the American negotiators for the Peace of London, and afterwards the establishment of a new nation. Named King of the United Provinces by the Continental Congress in 1784, he would create the office of Prime Minister of the United Provinces in 1788, call the election of the first American Parliament, order the construction of a new capital on the banks of the Potomac River, spearheaded the formation of a standing American Army, and the reconstruction of the Royal Navy. When George III died in 1820, the Prince of Wales and the Appalachians succeeded him as King George IV.
A controversial figure in his own time, and into the modern era, he remains both landed and reviled for his actions, the extent to which the Civil War can be claimed on him remains a debated question.
Yes. Perhaps married to the heir of Duke of Mount Vernon - John Thornton Augustine WashingtonBy the powers of alternate history, could you make Princess Amelia live longer, should she also happen to exist ittl?
Princess Amelia of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
A tad too many Teds?They had four children: Edward, Anne, Andrew, and Edward.
Looks great.
May I draft a suggested article for Nixon?
On the topic of Nixon, I do have a dumb idea based on an infobox I made back in the summer.
Basically, during the Prince of Wales's visit to the White House, Richard Nixon really tried to set him up with his daughter Tricia Nixon. Now clearly this went nowhere, but it gave me an idea for something like that to actually happen ITTL. Clearly the American royal family is different from the OTL British royal family who are in Hanover, and I'm sure that a royal genealogy's already been decided, but it could be interesting to have the Nixons or even some other prominent PM's family marry into the Royal Family based on this historical tidbit.
Tricia can marry a member from one of America’s royal dukedoms.
Yes. Perhaps married to the heir of Duke of Mount Vernon - John Thornton Augustine Washington
John Thornton Augustine Washington - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This would help to make the House of Washington second only to the House of Hanover in distinction in America.
By the powers of alternate history, could you make Princess Amelia live longer, should she also happen to exist ittl?
Princess Amelia of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I don't think this has been addressed, but does George III still suffer from madness in his later years, or is that averted due to the other changes that have occurred?
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Because the Crown is the final guarantor of the people's liberties, is the court system:
a. District courts, appellate courts, supreme court, the Crownb. District courts, appellate courts, supreme court of which the Monarch is similar to Chief Justicec. District courts, appellate courts, the Crownd. or the Crown just doesn't give assent to laws which violate such rights
A tad too many Teds?
If so, how are there some baronesses in the infobox?