Do Combine citizens have free movement? I thought they were forced to move around on the government's whim?Here is an assimilationist argument in favor of assimilation into a single Human Culture because it increases 1) individual freedom to move to richer countries and assimilate
Should some countries cease to exist?
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Look to the West Volume VIII: The Bear and the Basilisk
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Beatriz
Gone Fishin'
They, unlike the citizens of substack Hypothetical, are encouraged to move to less assimilated areas - particularly deforested ones
Rather than necessarily restricting movement, I imagine the Combine is more likely than not fine with having its citizens go from one place to another. It means, at least in theory, those who come from one part of their sphere of influence aren't necessarily liable to help would-be rebels overthrow the local administrators that get put in charge (and given that Diversitarianism has elements that are liable to be... very unfriendly to minorities, then that bet on loyalty makes sense as time goes on) - er, excuse me, Humanity strongly encourages those who've been shown the truth to be global in their hearts and minds, and a key component of emphasizing this is to ensure that he or she gets to see all corners of the places that have been properly liberated.
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Beatriz
Gone Fishin'
Makes me wonder what circumstances you would need to get a broadly democratic but homogenized World Government occupying the majority of humanity's population and area
Well, if the world ever unified in a mostly democratic fashion, even if only at first as a loose confederation, I imagine that there would be a trend towards homogeneity, just as the US has had a trend towards homogeneity.
If the government was explicitly Societist (or something similar-ish), the best way to get out behind that trend and push would be to provide tax or other such incentives for people to abandon their diverse cultures in favor of the 'Human' one, rather than use repressive measures to force people in line. Once a govenment gets too used to repression, you start to trend towards a hammer and nail problem if you're not careful.
Beatriz
Gone Fishin'
Given how the US initially developed as a loose confederation of states rebelling against British rule, a "Global Liberation War" in response to a Two Georges style scenario of direct European rule of the New World would help solidify a global alliance (starting from the New World colonies to make "Tail wagging the dog" a reality militarily and extended to pan-German/Italian/anticolonial movements) combined with nastier European response could help solidify global unity around "Never Again".
Also, revolutionary socialism is anti-colonialism BUT ALSO supports a "world federation of socialist republics" etc.
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I just realized something
The Combine can't have anything like the competetive sports that we have in the modern world. No football teams or soccer clubs associated with this state or that town, hell, you can't even have competing teams at all because different people would divide up based on their favoritism for one side or another.
Team sports would be dead, wouldn't they, given the logic of the Combine?
I just realized something
The Combine can't have anything like the competetive sports that we have in the modern world. No football teams or soccer clubs associated with this state or that town, hell, you can't even have competing teams at all because different people would divide up based on their favoritism for one side or another.
Team sports would be dead, wouldn't they, given the logic of the Combine?
Or else they keep them because clearly they're universal to Human Culture, but the teams are both untied to geography and randomly reshuffled every year so nobody develops a deep attachment to "the Blues" or whatever.
Or it could work to reshuffle very match day. Team records for a season would be meaningless, but individuals' stats could aggregate competitively. I'd expect, though, that the perverse incentives of competing against one's teammates would keep the quality of play from achieving that of an equally well-endowed traditional league.
Beatriz
Gone Fishin'
Said alliance sticking together helps if you continue to have a rival(s) like NATO/the US:
- Given that a world state would want to encompass more than half of humanity, and across multiple regions - including part of the Valiepieris (?) circle would be a given
- dividing India/China into multiple pieces which can be used to gain a willing foothold in mainland Asia is a must for power projection - South India has 200 millions, South China has 400 millions, roughly counted - having South China in is a must to divide Chinese nationalisms
- Atlantic-side Africa can be integrated as "autonomous overseas provinces" from Rio de Oro to Namibia
- a sub-federation of the USE consisting of "Europe thus divided into nationalities freely formed and free internally" would take care of Eastern Europe
Thande
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Thanks for all the comments and speculation everyone, and I hope you all had a good Christmas break.
Thanks for this attempt - I will be doing an official one at some point of course, but this is useful as it's a reminder of what I have said explicitly in the text and what isn't.
Why would there be any colours on the map. After all, Humanity has united itself and has no need for colours and boarders. Unless, of course, you are from one of those Bandit Regimes.
In addition to what others have said, it was mentioned way back when that they sent a team to the Global Games, despite the fact this could be seen as tacit acknowledgement that they were, in fact, a country, and indeed, led to them having a flag.
Alex Richards
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Honestly C.P.E. Bach was already heading in that direction and the Mannheim School- which greatly expanded the size of the orchestra and was a big influence on Haydn- was already starting to emerge in 1720. It'll be different certainly, but I wouldn't say it's going to be completely different.
I'm currently mid-way through the pandora war, but an idea/suggestion came to my mind: Something that is interesting about the Danube federation is that even though its infamous Luddism is gone by the time of the war, its roots are still there in some influence, and with the state soldiers getting hit by the war, I can see the creation of this world cyberpunk genre being created in the federation by the returning soldiers. This is thanks to the roots of the federation Luddism, and thus the cyberpunk genre of LTTW would be invented decades before OTL and by soldiers and not Sci-Fi writers, and I can see it have more Luddism influence than OTL and since the cyberpunk genre of LTTW was made before computers and the internet of LTTW, it would look more dieselpunk then cyberpunk, but with the cyberpunk core of " technological industry, Megacorporations, and the corrupt states are all bad". It would also be more European than OTL cyberpunk genre since it would have roots in the culture of post-pandora war European culture.