I can see that, Brown is interesting in the sense that Brown was a Europhile (rather different from most Trade Unionists at the time) but also would have probably have been one termer as it were given his many inadequacies.I needed a good counterpart for the intense Anglophile/Europhile that is Bill Fulbright, and who better than a little Gaitskellite drunkard who he can make dance like a marionette?
I can see that, I can see that he’s forced into an election where he’s ousted due to signing a treaty with Japan.My thought process was an interrupted term, so he’s in-out-in Harold Wilson style with a conservative interruption. Mostly wanted to indicate reformist liberalism and that Park’s coup didn’t happen
Rumblings of a convention challenge by the spurned Senator Kennedy quickly fizzled in mourning
Secretary of State Ball was put on the defensive in arguing for continuing to allow the UN to drive the intervention in the Democratic Republic of the Congo despite the clear gains by the Simbas in the east against an unstable Leopoldville government, trading barbs with hawkish Republicans and even muted criticism from Senator Kennedy.
A virgin/chad party system would be basedGreat pair of updates, even if now I'm secretly hoping the Republican nominee is some gridiron player or something to solidify a Jock/Nerd party system.
Right now, it’s still junta-shuffling as mentioned in the Adlaipost - Big Minh was likely in charge through the peace talks and bought himself a little time in charge off of the ceasefire, but those Young Turks are looking mighty greedy and ready for power, and the rest is up to the future of the TL to discussSo Vietnam question: who’s currently in charge of the South and how are they doing in terms of trying to untangle that whole mess? All the diplomacy in the world won’t mean too much of the South is a complete cluster when the North inevitably breaks the truce.
(Don’t get me wrong, I do think a surrving South Vietnam can be done, there’s certainly enough of a base of anti communists, but the problem really does get down to the fact that Southern governance was a complete cluster.
"Long Fifties" has been said almost a dozen times in Enigma and I's messages, I'm glad you picked up on it! I hope you enjoy the guy I bring on next, I'm really proud of how I wrote him.I almost regret getting busy with my own thread again given that it's slowed me down commenting yet - I'll get there eventually - on this lovely, thoughtful TL. A TL that really does give us a meaningfully different Sixties - in many ways a sort of "Long Fifties" at least at the level of domestic and geo-politics.
I suppose something like that. I always found it a bit rude that accounts of his passing said that his head cracked when he fell, but that was the verbiage they used. Didn't think of the implications of that one, I fear.@Oliveia, if Adlai had instead been from Anglo-French stock would that make him a Norman yolk? (Well, I am a dad, and it is a pun, so ...)
Could the next Republican President be someone like Rocky? Or Romney who'll pursue Civil Rights like JFK did IOTL.With the reforms of the Civil Rights Movement being way slower
Only one modern president won reelection while doing worse in the popular vote: Barack Obama.So Kuchel does worse in his reelection bid but still wins? That's a rarity among U.S. presidents historically.
I figure it makes sense! He experienced attacks much like the ones I described in the 1972 primary and it seemed to more-or-less kill his interest in staying in national politics in real life. The momentum of being President of the United States makes something like that very hard, but for the entirety of the election season his campaign is incredibly lethargic despite himself remaining a popular president.So Kuchel does worse in his reelection bid but still wins? That's a rarity among U.S. presidents historically.
Oh, yeah, totally. Something that will come up as we continue is how Stevenson's dovishness has made things frankly so much better in a ton of countries around the globe, even if Kuchel allows the CIA to start teething again. (Enigma will touch on that as we continue.)Its kinda funny how this short little detente with our eccentric democratic presidents reveals how much just a return to form with a normal run-of-the-mill hawk who isn't even that much of a cold warrior implementing largely OTL policies in a lot of areas, is in fact doing a bunch of horrible shit, as OTL but slightly exaggerated. I mean for God's sake, just Jonas Savimbi alone...