The Plantagenet Succession

The Power of the Plantagenets - by Alison Weir.
Here we go - a Timeline I've been planning for about a week now. Also a little surprise timeline for @FalconHonour.

An excerpt from The Power of the Plantagenets - Published June 6, 1999, by Alison Weir.

Many historians look at the execution of Richard, Duke of Gloucester, in July 1483 as a coup-d'etat. As Edward IV, the late dead King, had appointed his brother as Regent for his son and Lord Protector of the Realm, technically, by all standards, it was. But what most historians - myself included - notice more is how quickly Elizabeth Woodville struck down on him: within hours of King Edward's death, she had sent her brother from Ludlow... but it was not to bring the new King - it was to take the head of the Duke of Gloucester.

Though he would, indeed, fight valiantly, Richard, Duke of Gloucester would be taken into captivity by the Earl Rivers, as would his wife and son, on the twenty third of April[1]. It was not at all what the Dowager Queen had wanted - she wanted him dead. Her brother managed - through means unknown to us, even to this day - to convince her to allow the Duke of Gloucester to stand trial for attempted Regicide and Usurpation of the throne. Now, in a normal court, Richard, Duke of Gloucester, would have been found innocent - it was not, most historians believe, his intention to seize the throne but merely to remove the King from the influence of his numerous Woodville relatives. However, while Anthony Rivers had, indeed, managed to convince the Dowager Queen to let Richard stand trial, he had said nothing about not packing the court with their allies: Richard was found unanimously guilty by a jury of his peers and sentenced to death - a true and proper Kangaroo Court if there ever was one.

Now assured of her son's safety, she sent her brother rushing to collect him from Ludlow - her younger son, the Duke of York, would remain with her. The New King Edward, fifth of his name, arrived in London on the nineteenth of May for his coronation. With Anthony's return to London, both Bishop Stillington and Ralph Shaa, making grumblings about the validity of the late King Edward's marriage to the Dowager Queen, were silenced permanently - taken to the Tower, from whence they never again emerged.

The Dowager Queen's next move, even by the standards of the time, was seen as a unjust one - one meant purely for revenge and not justice, for the Queen had not forgotten the late Earl of Warwick's traitorous actions: Anne Neville, Duchess of Gloucester, was tried for conspiracy, sedition and witchcraft and, like her husband, was found unanimously guilty. Richard, who must have already been in sheer terror, had to witness an unspeakable act - his wife being burned alive at the stake for witchcraft. Their young son, Edward, aged almost ten, did not, thankfully, have to watch his mother's death for he chose to die instead. Never in the greatest of health, his confinement in the tower with his mother and father led to him dying of consumption on the first of August, two days before his mother's burning.

Elizabeth Woodville had her revenge and, for her at least, it must have felt utterly glorious - Warwick's family were all but extinguished: with Anne dead, George's two living children - Lady Margaret and Lord Edward - fell under her wardship. No more treachery would come from that family - of that, she was determined to ensure. And to prove it, when her mother-in-law, the almost seventy year old Dowager Duchess of York, protested, she, too, found herself in the Tower. Fortunately for the Duchess, her grandson was fond of her and ordered she be released for his coronation a mere eight weeks later - but Cecily had learned: keep silent or be silenced, by death if necessary.

With her enemies curtailed and her son safely in London, the Queen Dowager's attention turned to something a little more pleasurable - her son's coronation, scheduled by the Council for the twenty second of June. A glorious affair, King Edward V would be crowned on a blisteringly hot summer's day. No written documents remain to inform us as to the splendour of the coronation - all documents on the coronation were destroyed when Sheen Palace, now known as Richmond Palace, caught fire. The effects of that fire will be covered in another chapter in this book.

Richard, Duke of Gloucester would die, with the Dowager Queen watching, on the morning of the first of September - reportedly a cold, wet day with torrential storms. The Dowager Queen did not care: she wanted him dead, and dead he would be. It was a sorry affair - due to being encouraged to drink, by the Dowager Queen's two non-royal sons, the executioner could barely stand. To add insult to injury the axe provided to separate Richard's head from his neck was, conveniently, blunt. It would, due to the weather and the drunkenness of the executioner, take twelve strokes of the axe to finish him off. Just where the remains of the Duke of Gloucester ended up remains unknown to this day: one rumour says that The Duke and Duchess and their dead son were all buried under the Tower of London; another says they were thrown in the Thames and left to dissolve; a third says they're in unmarked graves somewhere in Leicester.

In the next chapter, I shall move on to the marital successes and failures of the King and his siblings.


[1] Historically, this was the date Richard, Duke of Gloucester, left York to meet Edward V at Northampton. Here, however, Baron Hastings did not convince him to act and, thus, he's still in Yorkshire at the time.
 
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That would give credit to the worst slanders on Elizabeth Woodville who was NOT so bad, but effectively recognizing her enemies and attacking them first would be more effective than trusting and being backstabbed. Gloucester was both too heavily dependent from Royal favor and too tied to the Nevilles (who hated her own family) and also too hungry of lands and power for not becoming soon a trouble for Elizabeth, her sons and family.
 
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... Damn Elizabeth, you’re really not giving yourself or your kids a good image. Wonder how Henry will play into this.
 
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Well not an entirely true picture of Elizabeth Woodville - her traits when the going got tough tended to a run to sanctuary rather than wielding power.
Few points: Edward IV's will and any add on do not survive sadly, reference to Richard as Protector post date his coup, nor was a King's will actually binding in terms of dictating the governance of the realm after his death, the council met immediately after Edward's death and seemed to reach agreement that the council would rule in Edward V's name until his coronation (which was partly in line with precedent), Anthony Lord Rivers was not in London he was at Ludlow where news of his brother in law's death reached him and he began a very slow journey towards London, the Queen's relationship with Richard was reasonable before her husband's death.
Apart from that terribly entertaining.
 
Well not an entirely true picture of Elizabeth Woodville - her traits when the going got tough tended to a run to sanctuary rather than wielding power.
Few points: Edward IV's will and any add on do not survive sadly, reference to Richard as Protector post date his coup, nor was a King's will actually binding in terms of dictating the governance of the realm after his death, the council met immediately after Edward's death and seemed to reach agreement that the council would rule in Edward V's name until his coronation (which was partly in line with precedent), Anthony Lord Rivers was not in London he was at Ludlow where news of his brother in law's death reached him and he began a very slow journey towards London, the Queen's relationship with Richard was reasonable before her husband's death.
Apart from that terribly entertaining.
All true. Still is fun seeing Elizabeth making the first move instead of trusting her brother-in-law. By the way Edward had no need to name Richard as regent/lord protector as that role was automatically given to the first adult male in the line of succession
 
All true. Still is fun seeing Elizabeth making the first move instead of trusting her brother-in-law. By the way Edward had no need to name Richard as regent/lord protector as that role was automatically given to the first adult male in the line of succession
Actually that didn't become the case in England until the modern era (and was ditched in the regency act passed after Elizabeth II to name her husband as regent) there certainly wasn't anything in statute or tradition governing how a minority would work (largely because England didn't have much in the way of precedent on the issue)
Only four Plantagenet monarchs before Edward V had succeeded as children and only in one case was the nearest male in the succession formally named and even that was shared - Henry III ( no regent though power lay mostly with William Marshall) Edward III was almost of age but his mother took control, Richard II a council was formed to govern in his name, Henry VI - a regency council was appointed with Bedford made the senior regent and Gloucester as protector.
 
Actually that didn't become the case in England until the modern era (and was ditched in the regency act passed after Elizabeth II to name her husband as regent) there certainly wasn't anything in statute or tradition governing how a minority would work (largely because England didn't have much in the way of precedent on the issue)
Only four Plantagenet monarchs before Edward V had succeeded as children and only in one case was the nearest male in the succession formally named and even that was shared - Henry III ( no regent though power lay mostly with William Marshall) Edward III was almost of age but his mother took control, Richard II a council was formed to govern in his name, Henry VI - a regency council was appointed with Bedford made the senior regent and Gloucester as protector.
Henry III had no adult male royal relative (like Edward VI), Edward II was deposed by a rebellion so was unlikely who Edward III would have power (and again he was crowned so a regency was not required), Richard II was crowned at 10 years old precisely for preventing a Gaunt regency, Henry VI had both his uncles as regents only because Bedford was fighting in France and so he was Henry‘s formal regent while Gloucester was the regent of the regent. The rule was that as demon by the fact who when Henry VI had needed a regency for his ”madness” the job was given to York, who was not in favor, but was the first adult male in the line of succession. Once Edward V was crowned he would not have the need of any regent/lord protector, but before that the job belonged to Richard of Gloucester
 
Well not an entirely true picture of Elizabeth Woodville - her traits when the going got tough tended to a run to sanctuary rather than wielding power.
Few points: Edward IV's will and any add on do not survive sadly, reference to Richard as Protector post date his coup, nor was a King's will actually binding in terms of dictating the governance of the realm after his death, the council met immediately after Edward's death and seemed to reach agreement that the council would rule in Edward V's name until his coronation (which was partly in line with precedent), Anthony Lord Rivers was not in London he was at Ludlow where news of his brother in law's death reached him and he began a very slow journey towards London, the Queen's relationship with Richard was reasonable before her husband's death.
Apart from that terribly entertaining.
You are correct - I forgot Anthony was in Ludlow, so I have altered that too fit.
 

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I don't know, I doubt the nobles of the realm would allow this.
I agree with you the woodville have just killed a Prince of the realm unlawfully the same happened to Edmund of Kent brother to King Edward the second of England. Edward V will have to do as Edward iii of England did and overthrow woodville power inorder to restore royal authority.
 
I agree with you the woodville have just killed a Prince of the realm unlawfully the same happened to Edmund of Kent brother to King Edward the second of England. Edward V will have to do as Edward iii of England did and overthrow woodville power inorder to restore royal authority.
I'll merely say this: Edward will come of age eventually - and Elizabeth Woodville knows it. Despite Alison Weir's words above, it's more than just petty jealousy from Elizabeth; she may want revenge, but she isn't dumb - she knows there'll be retribution eventually. It's just a case of "when, not if".
 
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