All of the above leaves an open question of what would be better for the neighbors: the Polish kings with or without the money? 😜Some of them did. And being an economic colony of Amsterdam was the source of the remaining problems....
All of the above leaves an open question of what would be better for the neighbors: the Polish kings with or without the money? 😜Some of them did. And being an economic colony of Amsterdam was the source of the remaining problems....
Assuming they would not blow it on whores, operas and paintings:All of the above leaves an open question of what would be better for the neighbors: the Polish kings with or without the money? 😜
You know how colonial powers sailed around the world and invaded various less advanced countries and forced treaties on them that made them produce basic goods and exchange them for developed goods? Our geniuses did that to themselves, so they could sell their grain and buy manufactured goods from abroad....Well ain't that a catch-22...
Ah, Poland, the place with the freest nobility in Europe.You know how colonial powers sailed around the world and invaded various less advanced countries and forced treaties on them that made them produce basic goods and exchange them for developed goods? Our geniuses did that to themselves, so they could sell their grain and buy manufactured goods from abroad....
Assuming they would not blow it on whores, operas and paintings:
To sum it up, your list start looking as “the less money the better”. 😜Probably better for Habsburgs and company, for Swedes it depends, Hohenzollerns of course wouldn't get anywhere and could rot in their margraviate, with Turks it's complicated, for Tatars it would be worse, and with Russians we would have a dozen more battles of Orsza and sieges of Smoleńsk
Kings with the money or even power would not necessarily change the situation: industrialization by the decree did not make the Russian Empire of the XVIII - mid-XIX century a truly developed country. You need the conditions under which development of the capitalist/manufacturer/trader class is stimulated and this requires combination of many factors. It even seems (just my opinion) that having a strong agricultural sector producing a big surplus is detrimental for such a situation.You know how colonial powers sailed around the world and invaded various less advanced countries and forced treaties on them that made them produce basic goods and exchange them for developed goods? Our geniuses did that to themselves, so they could sell their grain and buy manufactured goods from abroad....
Should have journeyed to Amsterdam...
And I thought a Dutch Commonwealth sounded coolSome of them did. And being an economic colony of Amsterdam was the source of the remaining problems....
Lowkey makes me wish some polish hussar took down the Aztec Empire just to see what would happen if they had infinite moneyAll of the above leaves an open question of what would be better for the neighbors: the Polish kings with or without the money? 😜
Actually, I forgot the most important: tokayActually, this would probably the best use of money, both domestically and internationally. 😂
Next TL you should make: Orły zza mórz (Eagles from across the seas): A story of a Polish AmericasLowkey makes me wish some polish hussar took down the Aztec Empire just to see what would happen if they had infinite money
Like I know they'd squander it, but it'd be so entertaining
*whisper*Next TL you should make: Orły zza mórz (Eagles from across the seas): A story of a Polish Americas
You know how colonial powers sailed around the world and invaded various less advanced countries and forced treaties on them that made them produce basic goods and exchange them for developed goods? Our geniuses did that to themselves, so they could sell their grain and buy manufactured goods from abroad....
Ah, Poland, the place with the freest nobility in Europe.
Not calling them developed but did the 20th century autocracies that became industrialized undergo that same development?industrialization by the decree did not make the Russian Empire of the XVIII - mid-XIX century a truly developed country. You need the conditions under which development of the capitalist/manufacturer/trader class is stimulated
They did and, because they lacked capital, they paid for it with their own people's bloodPortugal approves
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Not calling them developed but did the 20th century autocracies that became industrialized undergo that same development?
Because while I know about the NEP in the USSR and China's later turn to State Capitalism their industrial period seems to have happened during their industrialization by degree phase
I dont think this follows a arcane rulebook where if you dont sacrifice capital you have to sacrifice people, they just were bloodthirsty monsters as wellThey did and, because they lacked capital, they paid for it with their own people's blood
Actually, it became well-developed in the late XIX - early XX. The Soviet industrialization became possible not due to the atrocities (which tend to produce mostly the corpses) but thanks to the huge imports of the American (and to the lesser degree Italian and German) technologies.Portugal approves
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Not calling them developed but did the 20th century autocracies that became industrialized undergo that same development?
decree?Because while I know about the NEP in the USSR and China's later turn to State Capitalism their industrial period seems to have happened during their industrialization by degree
That’s true but the XX century was noticeably different from the XVIII and socialism was different from the monarchies, even the absolute ones.phase
But it qualifies as “manufactured goods”. 😂Actually, I forgot the most important: tokay
Yeah, sure. During the GNW Amsterdam was simply ignoring the state policies defined in Hague and traded with whom its merchants wanted. So you can find some commonalities to work with. But the Dutch merchants tended not to spend all their money upon the “entertainments”. 😉And I thought a Dutch Commonwealth sounded cool
Yeah, sure. During the GNW Amsterdam was simply ignoring the state policies defined in Hague and traded with whom its merchants wanted. So you can find some commonalities to work with. But the Dutch merchants tended not to spend all their money upon the “entertainments”. 😉
IndeedActually, it became well-developed in the late XIX - early XX. The Soviet industrialization became possible not due to the atrocities (which tend to produce mostly the corpses) but thanks to the huge imports of the American (and to the lesser degree Italian and German) technologies.
Yeah typo my baddecree?
Fair enough!That’s true but the XX century was noticeably different from the XVIII and socialism was different from the monarchies, even the absolute ones.
But it would be so fun tho!Yeah, sure. During the GNW Amsterdam was simply ignoring the state policies defined in Hague and traded with whom its merchants wanted. So you can find some commonalities to work with. But the Dutch merchants tended not to spend all their money upon the “entertainments”. 😉
Sure, it would. But I’m afraid that this would be the end of their commerce, even without the British help. 😉Indeed
Yeah typo my bad
Fair enough!
But it would be so fun tho!