Zimmerwald1915
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Everything except the title, which doesn't contrast with the background and is rotated ninety degrees to boot.
Map Thread VI
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I tried to move the title to the top of the diagram, but then France stuck out like a sore thumb.
I intended it to be Subcarpathian Ruthenia. But since this is a diagram it may very well be anything from rump West Ukraine to Belarus + Ukraine.
Nietzsche
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In the original, Crimea was Soviet. Which made no sense to me. So I decided that it would be a contested area. It's the second most vital port in the Black Sea, neither side would just give it up.
Philip
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I highly approve, even if it is not a map.
Edit: I suppose it is a map, just not in the kind we are used to in this thread.
Magnificate - it looks good, and is readable. However, without the title and the description, it would appear that France, rather than Poland, is the most important player in this system. What if you rotated everything 90 degrees and tried to move France somewhere so that it doesn't stick out?
Which isn't entirely untrue. While ITTL Poland is a cornerstone of central European system of alliances it is a junior partner when compared to France.
I'll try that.
09camaro - That might form a fair case for Germany not grabbing French Somaliland, then. Taking it at the negotiating table could well be seen as aggressive maneuvering by Germany, which isn't in a position to threaten Britain.
Nietzsche - Thanks! The changes look great: I wanted to avoid the idea of Germany annexing large chunks of the Baltic region, but having them form a Baltic duchy with the idea of closer integration later (whether anything comes of it or not) is quite believable. Does the striping on the Crimea indicate sole German occupation? I've seen a few CP Victory maps that give the Crimea autonomous status under either Germany or the Ottomans, but was trying to suggest a less harsh *Brest-Litovsk treaty.
UPDATE: Just noticed your new post. I presume your reasoning is that if Russia has lost badly enough to cede the Ukraine, holding on to the Crimean port is out?
Ridwan Asher - Batumi would be a fairly plausible gain: anything more than that would go against the fairly minimalistic scenario I envisaged. I was actually unsure whether the Ottoman Empire would have enough prestige after the war to get the concessions I already have (redrawn SoI in Arabia, Mediterranean bases, Dodecanese from Italy). If the Caucasian states have taken advantage of a weakened Russia to break free, rather than being liberated by peace treaty (as indicated by the fact that Russia still claims them), it's likely the Ottomans would try and gain influence near their borders but annexing it would be a breach of the peace treaty. The Crimea was supposed to be a reflection of the fact that Russia hadn't been as soundly defeated as OTL (perhaps due to a P.O.D. involving Germany shifting troops to the west), and so it doesn't become part of the new ethnic Ukrainian state.
Nietzsche - Thanks! The changes look great: I wanted to avoid the idea of Germany annexing large chunks of the Baltic region, but having them form a Baltic duchy with the idea of closer integration later (whether anything comes of it or not) is quite believable. Does the striping on the Crimea indicate sole German occupation? I've seen a few CP Victory maps that give the Crimea autonomous status under either Germany or the Ottomans, but was trying to suggest a less harsh *Brest-Litovsk treaty.
UPDATE: Just noticed your new post. I presume your reasoning is that if Russia has lost badly enough to cede the Ukraine, holding on to the Crimean port is out?
Ridwan Asher - Batumi would be a fairly plausible gain: anything more than that would go against the fairly minimalistic scenario I envisaged. I was actually unsure whether the Ottoman Empire would have enough prestige after the war to get the concessions I already have (redrawn SoI in Arabia, Mediterranean bases, Dodecanese from Italy). If the Caucasian states have taken advantage of a weakened Russia to break free, rather than being liberated by peace treaty (as indicated by the fact that Russia still claims them), it's likely the Ottomans would try and gain influence near their borders but annexing it would be a breach of the peace treaty. The Crimea was supposed to be a reflection of the fact that Russia hadn't been as soundly defeated as OTL (perhaps due to a P.O.D. involving Germany shifting troops to the west), and so it doesn't become part of the new ethnic Ukrainian state.
Zimmerwald1915
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I was going to suggest that, but at the moment the "map" is arranged roughly by geography. Perhaps rotating the text 90 degrees and putting "Polish Alliance System" above the French flag and "Overview 1927" below?
I Blame Communism
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Ooh, pretty. Reasable, but also very imaginative, and a fascinatingly ambiguous glimpse of the TL. Salutations, sir.
Thande
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Complicated, but just about readable.
Somewhat reminds me of the ones from the (German) Penguin Atlas of World History.
Detroitman32
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POD 1983. A different front overthrows the Derg earlier, persuades Eritrea to remain in Ethiopia, and establishes a democracy and reigional powerhouse.
Thanks for your positive comments.
I tried this and the previous suggestion but it didn't look right with that much empty space left. It seems like the vertical title is the way to go for the foreseeable future.
Susano
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I dont think this would work. I think constant guerilla war would be more likely. Mind, given the situation Eritrea is in now maybe constant guerilal war would even be the better alternative. But I see that different to OTL theres no territorial reform establishing ethnic provinces? Boo!
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