Germany wins WWI: In which german city would they have negotiated and signed the peace treaty?

RedSword12

RedSword12

Cryptic said:
I am thinking that a French national collapse could in WWI could only be induced by a mobile, blitzing type ground enemy and a sea enemy capable of cutting off men and supplies from the United Kingdom.

The Miracle at the Marne and the French stand at Verdun both demonstrated that not only was French national morale intact, but that even the ubber efficient German army could not force strategic type infantry break throughs.

Battering the French army into national collapse may take some socio political additions:

- Armed, loud and proud anti colonial rebellions sweep the French and UK empires. Morrocans, Algerians, Senegalese, Malagasy and the rest of the French empire are not arriving in mainland France. Likewise, Indians, Nigerians, Ugandans, Kenyans etc will not be feeding into British expeditionary campaigns.

- Britain goes pretty darn isolationist. Only volunteers can serve in rifle Brigades on the western front- and given the death rate at the immediate front and the ability to serve in safer (well usually) expeditionary campaigns, UK volunteers for French trenches start to dry up pretty fast. The end result is much reduced direct UK contribution to France.

- Austria Hungary is stronger and though will not be transitioning to strategic offenses, can hold the line with out continuous German bail outs.

- Verdun, 1916 France stands alone against the uber efficient and reinforced Germans. Things look grim.
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There's so many possible ways for France to lose on the Western Front that we can't list them all. It ranges from political POD's, worse military decisions, just plain bad luck, etc.
 

Cryptic

RedSword12 said:
There's so many possible ways for France to lose on the Western Front that we can't list them all. It ranges from political POD's, worse military decisions, just plain bad luck, etc.
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I agree, plenty of ways to lose. Not so many ways to lose via national collapse.
 

Seandineen

Cryptic said:
I am thinking that a German WWI victory would have resulted in peace treaties, not a peace treaty. Thus, multiple signing locations based on the strength of the German position verse the allied country in question:

France. Germany wants to drive home their victory over their principle enemy. Thus, the treaty location is going to be rich with symbolism- well from the German point of view. The treaty will be signed on German territory-in Strasbourg in particular. France is then required to affirm as "Forever German" in the course of signing.

UK: Due in part to favorable geography, The UK is far more intact than France and can continue to resist indefinetely. There is no way that the British will sign even a stray dog return agreement in Germany- let alone a German dictated peace treaty. Germany or a neutral, the UK will not be signing a peace treaty. Rather, the UK proposes Amsterdam as a neutral city to sign various uhmm....."memos of understanding" for going forward.

Russia: Treaty signing location is Kognisberg. The White Russian faction makes an appearance- and is affirmed by Germany as being the legitimate government of the Russian Empire. German treaty demands are dialed down and nobody want to weaken the legitimacy of the Whites via excessive demands. The Reds, however, refuse to acknowledge or comply with the treaty and loudly state that the White faction has no authority to sign it.
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Good old Anton! Any white but that racist nut Von Sternberg is Whatever their faults above Lenin, and his satraps. Maybe we get a Polish Kingdom like Karl Hapsburg wanted.
 
JanWellem

JanWellem

How about palaces in and around Berlin: Treaty of Potsdam (France), Treaty of Charlottenburg (Russia), Treaty of Sanssouci (UK), Treaty of Cecilienhof (Italy) &c.
 
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