Es Geloybte Aretz Continuation Thread
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Money can do a lot of things, and the Chileans have the bigger navy. (ITTL the Southern Cone escapes the worst and stays comparatively rich for longer)
so wait didn't russia retake mongolia from china? So how does china retake mongolia then? Does china also have any desire for revenge against western nations due to the century of humiliation like what is there relations with the uk like?
Are the chinese and Vietnamese in this tl get along or like otl vietnam sees china as the traditional enemy? Like who will support vietnam now with independence if china surely vietnam has to give something in return? vietnamese monarchy stays, they offer the throne to a chinese prince?
Also tibet and china any info you can share?
where does norway fall into the geopolitics of three main powers of europe? Im assuming they favour the british more?
Also how big and what does the danish navy look? Im assuming designed to protect the main island hold off swedish navy?
Are the chinese and Vietnamese in this tl get along or like otl vietnam sees china as the traditional enemy? Like who will support vietnam now with independence if china surely vietnam has to give something in return? vietnamese monarchy stays, they offer the throne to a chinese prince?
Also tibet and china any info you can share?
where does norway fall into the geopolitics of three main powers of europe? Im assuming they favour the british more?
Also how big and what does the danish navy look? Im assuming designed to protect the main island hold off swedish navy?
So does britain take care of portugal? Like invest and keep portugal politically and economically safe? Do the two nations people get along? Also is there a Portuguese monarchy still?
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How are poles in the Austria Hungary doing? We know about german poles, can you share any info on duel monarchy poles. Like do they want their part of the empire to join Poland? How is krakow developing? Has Poland tried to buy polish territories off KUK? Have the poles assimilated? How are the poles and Ukrainians relations like?
Isn't Bechuanaland Botswana? I don't recall Germany getting that one in here (although I admit I might've missed/forgotten it at some point).
Not a whole lot, but in basic national terms they are doing better than the German Poles.
Some do, but it's not a serious political ambition. More like the way some Dutch would like Belgium back than the way Irish reunification is pursued.
Very well. With a nation state across the border and the postwar growth period kicking off, the city is growing. And it is developing a very Polish identity. In a way, Krakow Poles consider themselves more Polish than the Poles of Poland, more ancestrally pure and truer to their roots. Not that anyone takes that seriously. But there is a lot of Polish culture coming out of Krakow, and a good deal of it is more daring and avantgarde than what Warsaw produces.
A guy can dream... Not seriously. Even if the Enmpoire were willing to consider it - and it's an iffy proposition in the twentieth century - Poland could never afford it.
Some have, but unlike in Germany, there is not a lot of pressure on them to do so. Wherever there are large Polish communities, they are a recognised nationality with rights and status. In parts of Hungary, and in areas where they are a small minority,. assimilation happens, but often enough it is more a matter of different ethnic identites being worn at different times.
I'm not sure, but given the power imbalance and lack of conflict, I think they will be better than IOTL. At least the Poles will consider them all right. The Ruthenians might disagree.
It is and it is sparsely populated so nationalist pressure is less. I was going for a Richard von Weizsäcker joke but chickened out.
with italy still trying to kill the ottomans, have the italians tried anything with austria hungary, has italy tried stocking nationalism in the land they consider theres? Why does italy not join russia in the war?
How has The austro hungarian navy developed?
In regards to Poland, where are fracture lines in society? Like are the factory owners god fearing catholics or are they secular who want a modern state? which parts of society lean socialist? Political leaning of the military?
Is there any friction between ruthenia and poland both being agriculture exports? Like whats happening now is ukranian grain undercutting poland?
Last where does norway stand in the european political aligning?
How has The austro hungarian navy developed?
In regards to Poland, where are fracture lines in society? Like are the factory owners god fearing catholics or are they secular who want a modern state? which parts of society lean socialist? Political leaning of the military?
Is there any friction between ruthenia and poland both being agriculture exports? Like whats happening now is ukranian grain undercutting poland?
Last where does norway stand in the european political aligning?
The Core and the Periphery, A Wallersteinian Cycle of Poems, #2 1970
When I was a child and she was a child
there were days I would not eat my dinner--
then my father would say
in Biafra today, children's bellies inflate
for what's here on your plate
but my answer was: μολὼν λαβέ.
I apologize for having hijacked either the thread or Edgar Allan Poe.
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question does Thuringia ever get reformed or does it remain the weird patchwork of small duchies? If so what happens to its rulers?
Italy isn't really trying to kill the Ottoman Empire. The only country with a grudge match level of hate is Greece, and they can't really afford it. The Italians are opportunistic territory-grabbers with no particular investment in the Ottoman Empire one way or the other.
Theirs is a world where 1918 hasn't happened, so their view is that of pre-WWI geopolitics. They want to rule colonies, and the only viable place they can get them is the Ottoman periphery and Africa. Hence Libya (successful), Ethiopia (failed) and Albania (failed). Italy stands broadly on the anti-Ottoman side because they hope to benefit from a possible future dismembering of the Empire, but that is because they are allied to France, not because they actually have that as a policy goal.
Militarily, the Italians actually would stand a chance at contesting serious amounts of territory. In an alliance with Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, and possibly Romania, they might stand a chance of finishing the Ottomans. It isn't going to happen because on about day 10 of that war, a European conflictr would start. Attacking the Ottomans would get the British to intervene, that will draw the French in (they cannot afford to lose Italy or the ability to contest the Mediterranean) which would trigger the Anglo-German alliance at which point the possible neutrality of Austria-Hungary will not do anything much to relieve the continentwide fuckedness that ensues. That is why.
Much like the German one, only more so. They retain and modernise their old battlefleet, but do not meaningfully enter into the dreadnought races. Instead, they focus on a force of smaller craft and become very, very good at it. AH cruisers, torpedo boats, submarines, minelayers, destroyer flotillas and naval air would, in the event of a war against Italy, turn the Adriatic into a kill zone for anything that floats and operate in the central Med against Italian and other enemy (read: French) shipping.
The military is - uncomfortably centrist. There are extreme conservatives in the ranks, but the nature of their force structuire means they have to embrace cooperation with other ethnic elements, and there are a shitload of legacy Party Combat Wing officers. This changes gradually as the army turns more royalist, reaching its peak in the 1950s and 1960s.
Most businesspeople are either conservative (that is Catholic and royalist) or liberal (that is nationalists). Many of their labour force are organised in the Socialist party. The conservatives will win greater influence over time, but they never rule the country outright.
The strongest support for a reactionary Ständestaat comes from petit bourgeois and smallholding farmers, including those settled postwar in the Eastern territories. Most people in cities, even the most conservative, imagine something more modern, more efficient, more - fascist. They don't have the name for it, but they have the dream. Most conservative Jews, to the extent they engage in national politics (many Chasidic communities do not) lean that way. But far more Jews are liberal or Socialist.
The Poles will be unhappy, but what can you do? A large part of the breadbasket of Ukraine is still Russian ITTL, so they are more likely to gripe about Russian grain undercutting them. Warsaw certainly tries to push around the Ruthenian rump state - they see themselves as the senior power in every regard - and gets away with it sometimes. It's a cause of friction between Berlin and Vienna. But it's never bad enough to call the alliance into question. Even when Berlin forgets about the bear, Warsaw never does.
Norway is allied to Britain. It's not a high-level issue, they do not feel threatened or have overseas interests they trust the British to defend the way Portugal does, but it is the most rational stance and Britain is willing to incur a meaningful cost in order to secure its northeastern flank. Imagine if they were allied to France - Paris would love it, but the Norwegians know it's not worth the economic cost or political risk. In a war, the Swedish would cut the country in half and roll up resistance. This way, it's profitable neutrality.
No way will the Reich touch ANY of the sacred arrangement The Bismarck (PBUH) made. Thuringia remains organised into tiny principalities, and as time passes, it matters less and less. Think of how the EU is capable of integrating places like Liechtenstein, Andorra, or Monaco. They are absolutely sovereign states except everyone knows that functionally, they are not. One deals. At the end of it all, you get a lot of photogenic residences and cutesy photo-op guards units, a certain quaint pomposity of their representatives in the Reichsrat, but none of it matters beyond a degree of excess friction the machinery can tolerate.
Wait I thought they won and gained Albania from the ottomans? So is Albania italian? Ottoman or independent?
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It's the English rendering of a formula that is traditionally added to the name of a Prophet in Arabic. What I mean is that people in Germany are generally unwqilling tro tamper with anything that Bismarck set up because he is revered as a genius.
Technically independent. The Italians could not subdue the country. Rome retains a large amount of influence, but has not managed to integrate it into the metropole or make it a colony.
So are the ottomans supporting muslim Albanians against the Italians? And when ottomans get oil money will they try and get revenge against France and Italy funding movements in North africa etc.