This might provide a base: http://www.mjsimpson.co.uk/interviews/Resources/gabrie6.gifIf you'd like an "official" assignment, you're welcome to spruce up our Harry, Gabriel Thomson (c. 1999 or so), to look more like the Boy Who Lived...
This might provide a base: http://www.mjsimpson.co.uk/interviews/Resources/gabrie6.gifIf you'd like an "official" assignment, you're welcome to spruce up our Harry, Gabriel Thomson (c. 1999 or so), to look more like the Boy Who Lived...
A lot of the actors will change. Levin Rambin has a few problems: she's actually too young (only 9 in '99), she's a natural blonde (which contrast with specific descriptions of Hermione) and she's American, while the series is likely to draw most of its cast from Britain. I'm afraid that basically locks her out from the part.
Hermione is described as having uncontrollably bushy brown hair, slightly big teeth, and maybe even a bit homely. She's definitely not conventionally attractive, and generally spends almost no effort on her appearance. Emma Watson was actually thought by some people to be too pretty in the later movies to fit the description (Hollywood Homely in action, basically). So, I'm sorry, but somebody more like Keeley Hazell would be rather right out.She is American, true. I was going for the look really. It's been over a year since I've touched a Potter book. What's Hermione's description? If it is to be British, I'd hope to stick with an actress who's more like Keeley Hazell than Emma Watson.
Welcome aboard, Dan! And thank you for that excellent suggestion. Looking at Bruhl in particular, he has a baby-face and should easily be able to play a few years younger.
The first two books are going to be adapted into 30-minute episodes; that's 390 minutes of screentime. Subsequent books (starting with Azkaban) are going to be getting 45 minutes per episode, or 585 minutes total. The problem with the film versions is that, as the books got longer, the adaptations got shorter (absurdly, the adaptation of the notorious door-stopper that is Order of the Phoenix is the shortest of all eight films) - this started with Azkaban (the shift from Columbus to Cuaron also resulted in one to pretentiousness from faithfulness and attention to detail). ITTL, the exact opposite situation will happen - Azkaban will find itself with perhaps more time than it needs.
I see no reason why there would not be a French-language dub produced by the CBC (I think the more relevant question is, did they produce one for Doctor Who when they were involved with that?).
I'm not sure what they'll do about the kids - long-term, they'll obviously want actual children doing the dubbing, and if French Canada is anything like English Canada, I'm sure there's a dedicated cadre of perhaps a dozen child actors involved in everything who can assume those roles - but shorter-term they might want to use the standard voice-acting technique of casting adult women to play all the kids, only to arbitrarily swap them out for adult men when the boys are deemed old enough. I certainly wouldn't want that to be the case, but I can't say it would surprise me if it ended up that way.
How were the OTL Potter films dubbed in Quebec? Or did they use the Parisian French dub? (Any non-Anglophones from other countries can feel free to share their dub experiences with regards to the prepubescent voices as well.)
Oh, it's going into primetime, no doubt. As far as the CBC is concerned, this is their shot at recapturing the glory of Road to Avonlea.
And there you have it! Thanks for your insightful contributions
Am I'm glad that I found some good choices in Herren Brühl and Lukas - both of them seemed to have good chemistry together in Good Bye, Lenin!.
Understandable, Hörnla. Still, Daniel Brühl almost had a sort of baby-face, so it is possible that he could be cast as someone younger than his actual age, if not as an older student.
Quite right on that one; still think it's a shame they never brought him back for Half-Blood Prince.BTW, OTL's Movies ignored Age in a Casting decision once and the result was Great: C. Coulson As Tom Riddle.
Quite right on that one; still think it's a shame they never brought him back for Half-Blood Prince.
Coulson is mainly a television actor, which means he's still perfect for the part in our small-screen endeavour...
And also at the beginning of his career was Yann Tiersen (Amelie, Good Bye Lenin). It is a bit improbable that he would be on the radar, but that would make a very quirky music, IMHO often quite fitting with Rowling's tone.
Well, and as subsequent commentary has explained for me, I'm not so hot on Lukas - I don't really buy him as a student. But I do like Bruhl, yes.Am I'm glad that I found some good choices in Herren Brühl and Lukas - both of them seemed to have good chemistry together in Good Bye, Lenin!.
Pottermania seems to have hit everyone thick and fast - I can buy it uniting the two linguistically disparate branches.Dan1988 said:If the CBC could get Radio-Canada on board early enough, then this could be in TTL what Canada: A People's History was OTL.
Ah yes, or what I like to call the most boneheaded programming decision in recorded history. For those who are unaware: the CBC, though it is a public broadcaster, does not receive dedicated licencing fees akin to the BBC, and is largely reliant on advertising revenue, like private broadcasters. Most Canadians, as you might expect, overwhelmingly prefer American programming, which is far more lavishly budgeted and diverse in its content. Effectively, they hobbled themselves in making this decision; their one consistent success in the two decades since has been Hockey Night in Canada. And CTV has been trying to poach that from them for years.Dan1988 said:Concurrent with this is the push towards having an all-Canadian primetime lineup.
You don't air programming intended to attract audiences - especially within the valuable demographics - on Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays anymore, because they're all out living their lives (or so the stereotype goes). The Adventures of Harry Potter would have to air between Monday and Thursday. I agree that - for the first couple of seasons, at least - we're going to be looking at pre-Watershed (9:00 PM), for thirty minutes plus commercials (a little over forty minutes total). I'm not sure what the CBC would do with the remaining twenty minutes in that hour - the notion of "special behind-the-scenes" featurettes has been raised, and I can see the CBC putting a CanCon spin on that.Dan1988 said:That's good. Now comes the next question: which day of the week, and will it be immediately before The National (or Sunday Report, if on a Sunday) or starting off the primetime lineup? Now, to me, we can discount Saturday because that's the big sports day (particularly with HNIC once the hockey season starts up). The only days I could see would be either Friday (to end the work week, probably influenced by me watching PBS so I'm used to having costume dramas happen at around 8-10 pm, courtesy of Masterpiece Theatre) or Sunday (when the family's together as an end-of-week activity). That's just my observations - if you can think of something better, that's great.
I like it, but it sounds too "period" to serve as a Harry Potter theme. Too Masterpiece Theatre, if you willDan1988 said:Now here's another one: could this work for an opening sequence and/or a closing sequence? It's the 3rd movement of the Bradenburg Concerto No.# 4 (BWV 1049) by Johann Sebastian Bach, here recorded in 1968 with the Munich Bach Orchestra with the excellent Karl Richter as conductor. In this case, it could be adapted to a modern orchestra and rerecorded with either the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, the Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, or a British orchestra, or a combo of both.
Thanks for sharing that tidbit with us, Hornla! Odd that they kept Schwarzmaier for Chamber, even though Radcliffe's voice had very obviously broken for that film.About dubbing, I think it might be interesting if I refer to the German OTL-practize here where child-actors have been cast for this task.
Tim Schwarzmaier who dubbed Daniel Radcliffe in the first two movies is even a year younger than DR and started dubbing at the age of 7. (He was replaced for HP III as his voice hadn't yet broken at the time when Radcliffe's started to do so).
Max Felder is the same age as Grint (and nowadays also the German voice of Jacob Black in Twilight).
Gabrielle Petermann is among the three the only non-thespian but only doing voicework. She is a bit older (*1987) and is also the standard voice for Selena Gomez and Tinkerbell.
Agree that Coulson was good in Chamber (and the notion of him being "too old" for HBP was a laugh and a half), and he would be a year younger ITTL...BTW, OTL's Movies ignored Age in a Casting decision once and the result was Great: C. Coulson As Tom Riddle.
Quite right on that one; still think it's a shame they never brought him back for Half-Blood Prince.
Coulson is mainly a television actor, which means he's still perfect for the part in our small-screen endeavour...
I personally think that public domain music would be a great way to go (it's what made the Looney Tunes so memorable, after all, though sadly I doubt that anyone living could match the genius for arrangement of a Carl Stalling), and though in any actual situation they would have gone for an original composition (because that's just the way things are), I do really like this piece. The section that I really like starts here, just over a minute in. You can hear the similarities to the OTL John Williams theme.I was talking this over with my sister, and she had a suggestion for something to give a similar feel, without requiring a big name: take Gustav Holst's Jupiter, and mess about with it. Try this, starting from about 25 seconds into the original piece. There's some good themes in there that could be picked up for specific narrative elements, and the opening would have some intrigue to it. Best part: the composer's dead, so you just have to pay someone to pick it up and write based off it, which is a lot cheaper than trying to swing a Big Name like Williams for TV work.
That's an intriguing possibility - and a nice, economical use of the "young Marauders generation" actors beyond their token scenes. Now, this could mean that they'll all have to be twenty-somethings, as it's easier to play younger than older (as the OTL epilogue in Deathly Hallows Part II so conclusively demonstrates - you are all aware that none of them are going to look anything like that in fifteen years?). Which reminds me - they'll probably recast for that epilogue ITTL. Any objections?I absolutely agree! And I expect the Series to Be far more Elaborate on the flashbacks! IMHO the worst shortcoming of OTLs Movies.
Going into more Detail about the "1st Order" and voldy's original Rise (when He had a nose) would just Be fantastic!
It's H-H-H-Harry, c-c-c-coming to h-h-h-hurt me!I've an idea: How about Michael Palin for Quirrell?
One point of order: before we go too far afield, consider that the likeliest candidate for the job would be someone with a history at the BBC.On the music an interesting observation: Alexandre Desplat was not yet internationally renowned by 1999. What if by coincidence he could be won to at least lay the groundwork for the music (main themes, opening, closing)?
I prefer his music of the last movies slightly over John Williams on autopilot.
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And also at the beginning of his career was Yann Tiersen (Amelie, Good Bye Lenin). It is a bit improbable that he would be on the radar, but that would make a very quirky music, IMHO often quite fitting with Rowling's tone.
Ah yes - I liked his work on Good Bye, Lenin! The flying Lenin statue scene would not be the same without it.
I figured as much, but it fits with the character, stutterer as he is. But don't forget that Palin also did phenomenal work in Brazil and GBH, so he's no stranger to serious parts. I think he might be the best candidate thus far.It's H-H-H-Harry, c-c-c-coming to h-h-h-hurt me!
I've an idea: How about Michael Palin for
Quirrell?
That's an intriguing possibility - and a nice, economical use of the "young Marauders generation" actors beyond their token scenes. Now, this could mean that they'll all have to be twenty-somethings, as it's easier to play younger than older (as the OTL epilogue in Deathly Hallows Part II so conclusively demonstrates - you are all aware that none of them are going to look anything like that in fifteen years?). Which reminds me - they'll probably recast for that epilogue ITTL. Any objections?
Again, Palin had done GBH not even seven years before; also, just before TTL's BBC starts producing, casting, what have you, he'd done Full Circle not a year before -- he'd be available, willing to work for the Beeb, and considering how many actors IOTL jumped at the chance to work on Potter, I think he'd want to do it.I think that two trappings we talked about when considering possible Quirells apply here, too:
-too famous for the first season (Palin being out of budget unless being talked into the role by grandkids/nieces/nephews)
-name to big for the character (employing Michael "Pilatus" Palin on such a minor role might giveaway the main villain-character of Quirell by itself)
Apart from that, Palin would be great. Whether as a travelogist or a comedian, a wonderful guy.
Well, and as subsequent commentary has explained for me, I'm not so hot on Lukas - I don't really buy him as a student. But I do like Bruhl, yes.
Pottermania seems to have hit everyone thick and fast - I can buy it uniting the two linguistically disparate branches.
Ah yes, or what I like to call the most boneheaded programming decision in recorded history. For those who are unaware: the CBC, though it is a public broadcaster, does not receive dedicated licencing fees akin to the BBC, and is largely reliant on advertising revenue, like private broadcasters.
Most Canadians, as you might expect, overwhelmingly prefer American programming, which is far more lavishly budgeted and diverse in its content. Effectively, they hobbled themselves in making this decision; their one consistent success in the two decades since has been Hockey Night in Canada. And CTV has been trying to poach that from them for years.
This is going to be a very desperately-needed huge hit for them. And it'll last for about a decade, too. Maybe they can splurge on keeping the HNiC theme song?
You don't air programming intended to attract audiences - especially within the valuable demographics - on Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays anymore, because they're all out living their lives (or so the stereotype goes).
The Adventures of Harry Potter would have to air between Monday and Thursday.
I agree that - for the first couple of seasons, at least - we're going to be looking at pre-Watershed (9:00 PM), for thirty minutes plus commercials (a little over forty minutes total). I'm not sure what the CBC would do with the remaining twenty minutes in that hour - the notion of "special behind-the-scenes" featurettes has been raised, and I can see the CBC putting a CanCon spin on that.
Having used Wikipedia as a guide for my ATL network schedules for That Wacky Redhead (and other projects), I would normally suggest this page as a potential template for when we could air The Adventures of Harry Potter in Canada, but alas, it doesn't quite go back for enough for us to do so at this time.
I like it, but it sounds too "period" to serve as a Harry Potter theme. Too Masterpiece Theatre, if you will