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  1. AHC Make Greece comprise this territory

    I am not entirely sure that this Greece would have to fight in WW2 at all. With less economic hardship and instability during the interwar period Greece would likely be able to afford better armed forces and present an image of a somewhat less divided society. Would Mussolini still invade Greece...

  2. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Why would Greece want a chunk of underdeveloped land full of hostile people? Megali Idea was about a state that would incluude all areas populated by Greeks(how that last bit was defined depended on who you asked, but it did not include areas with no Greeks at all), not about room. And why would...

  3. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    This makes more sense. This way the parents can use the German name and the Greeks can't feel slighted.

  4. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    The fact that they are Germans is the point.You need the child to have as much legitimacy as possible and a name without a Greek equivalent doesn't help, even if it's no deal breaker on its own. I think that at least Constantine and Leopold should have their names switched. Besides, OTL Leopold...

  5. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Good update. I see Leopold is more or less OTL Leopold II. Don't you think the children would get more traditional Greek names instead of Leopold, Charlotte and William, which don't even translate in Greek?

  6. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Hopefully Katharevousa will focus on turning demotic into a universal Greek dialect and then quietly disappear instead of sticking around, becoming increasingly archaic and incomprehensible and adding yet another division to the population. There is absolutely no reason to revive a language that...

  7. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Actually cash crops(Corinthian raisin in particular)were quite widespread simply because the limited and not-so-fertile land area and little rainfall made it impossible to make a living through staple crops. The problem was that remittances from Ottoman and diaspora Greeks kept the value of the...

  8. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Leopold's start was as different from Otto's as possible, the state isn't so completely dependent on Kapodistrias and the Bavarians aren't around to doom the country for the next half-century. Compared to OTL Greece is thriving already.

  9. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Some German princess(or Scandinavian? I don't remember much about the family trees of the time besides the most notable facts) seems to be the only choice. Is Catholicism really such a big obstacle though, given that the chldren will inevitably be raised Orthodox? For that matter, will Leopold...

  10. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    So the sortie of Missolonghi doesn't become the most famous disaster of the war, Karaiskakis doesn't become one of the 4 or 5 most famous revolutionary heroes of Greece and Roumeli isn't doomed to fall. I wonder how Kapodistrias will react to this situation, which still looks pretty bad without...

  11. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Ouch. I don't predict a very good fate for Missolonghi. Might have butterflies on the rest of Greece if more of Ibrahim's army ends up occupied there.

  12. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Anyone is probably a better choice than Otto. Leopold in particular has evidence to support that he is not an incompetent idiot.

  13. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Expected outcome, really interested in the real divergences. One minor detail:the proper spelling is Kountouriotis(Κουντουριώτης), not Kountarious. His grandson is Pavlos Kountouriotis, commander of the Greek Navy and armored cruiser Averoff during the 1st Balkan War.

  14. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    I think Anglo-French intervention will come when the Great Powers decide what kind of Greece they want, in order to impose their wishes to all sides, and not because they are moved by the plight of the poor Greeks who are getting slaughtered.

  15. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    The map is as good as the rest of the update. I'm waiting for more.

  16. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    I have read that Leopold IOTL refused the Greek throne partly because Kapodistrias didn't want him and presented an even worse picture of Greece than the reality, while he also wasn't satisfied with the border. In the end he was probably right to stay away from a self-interest perspective, but...

  17. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Oh yes, they agreed on that as much as anyone agreed on anything those days. So far you've captured the story very well and this is not such a crucial point among the ridiculous amount of internal conflict of the revolutionary Greeks.

  18. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    The shipowners and the primates didn't differ in their goals, but they also didn't want to share power with each other. Given that almost nobody in Greece was willing to share power with anyone else, I guess it isn't much of a stretch to put them in the same broad category, since otherwise you...

  19. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Don't forget the shipowners from the islands, who were a faction of their own, too.

  20. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Athens as the new capital of Greece was an unnecessarily expensive sentimentality, as it had to be built on uneven terrain, over the war torn ruins of the pre-independence town, and it had no port nearby, so that had to be built from scratch, too. Argos, on the other hand, was the natural...
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