Do they still claim Tuva though ? Cause that would make for a strange borderThey did indeed recognize Mongolia in 2002 and stopped including it in the maps l.
Do they still claim Tuva though ? Cause that would make for a strange borderThey did indeed recognize Mongolia in 2002 and stopped including it in the maps l.
Do they still claim Tuva though ? Cause that would make for a strange border
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Claimed administrative divisions of both Chinas. Note that the vast majority of information about the continental ROC is in mandarin so the map is very incompleate, also I *think* ROC recognised mongolia as an independant country in 2002, so the claims over mongolia no longer apply.
yeah wikipedia says that they recognsed mongolia but then broke off dyplomatic relations due to border conflicts (which figures, the borders of ROCs outer mongolia were slightly different than those of the country of mongolia)So while doing the research for a different question I came across the fact that the RoC actually recognized Mongolia's sovereignty in 1945
But I don't know about "not claiming" it, i think it kinda depended on political alignment, with the ROC kinda, officialy, on paper claiming outer mongolia but not bothering in reality. And now (as well as from 2000 to 2008) that the dpp is in power they focus on the mainland claims as a whole even less. I'm pretty sure it's also a constitutional issue, since the 1947 constitution which has tibet and outer mongolia enshrined in it as special regions, so the 2002 recognition might not even be constitutional. Idk, it's complicatedthe stopped recognizing it, but did not claim it
At that point, we might as well start drawing the non-autonomous prefectures and cities, starting with Xining and Haidong, Qinghai.View attachment 899877
Claimed administrative divisions of both Chinas. Note that the vast majority of information about the continental ROC is in mandarin so the map is very incompleate, also I *think* ROC recognised mongolia as an independant country in 2002, so the claims over mongolia no longer apply.
yeah wikipedia says that they recognsed mongolia but then broke off dyplomatic relations due to border conflicts (which figures, the borders of ROCs outer mongolia were slightly different than those of the country of mongolia)
But I don't know about "not claiming" it, i think it kinda depended on political alignment, with the ROC kinda, officialy, on paper claiming outer mongolia but not bothering in reality. And now (as well as from 2000 to 2008) that the dpp is in power they focus on the mainland claims as a whole even less. I'm pretty sure it's also a constitutional issue, since the 1947 constitution which has tibet and outer mongolia enshrined in it as special regions, so the 2002 recognition might not even be constitutional. Idk, it's complicated
I'm highly sure that's the case, however your scaling is off by a good amount:View attachment 900368
so i traced the map of china conveniently posted in the Q-Bam Historical Thread by athgtq16129 at 1:4 using some 2023 linbot borders where thought I couldnt do better
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this is what I got
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this is overlayed on the alexandrian and linbot worldas respectively, with and without borders
now, full disclosure, I'm dumb when it comes to scaling & projection, so is worlda suposed to be slightly stretched verticaly and contracted horisontaly compared to q-bam?
yeah thats what I thought, any tips on fixing that or do I have to figure out on my own what exactly I did wrong?however your scaling is off by a good amount:
I believe it is, I've never been able to make QBAM stuff fit on worlda without some vertical-horizontal distortion.View attachment 900368
so i traced the map of china conveniently posted in the Q-Bam Historical Thread by athgtq16129 at 1:4 using some 2023 linbot borders where thought I couldnt do better
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this is what I got
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this is overlayed on the alexandrian and linbot worldas respectively, with and without borders
now, full disclosure, I'm dumb when it comes to scaling & projection, so is worlda suposed to be slightly stretched verticaly and contracted horisontaly compared to q-bam?
So basically, as you might have heard, neither the QBAM nor the worlda are actually in any well-defined projection that can be identified, and therefore there is no canonical way to convert between them, as far as I know, so you really do kind of just have to do it by eye. This is why the R-QBAM is so needed, and why today I habitually use the XK-BAM and VT-BAM instead of the worlda and QBAM.yeah thats what I thought, any tips on fixing that or do I have to figure out on my own what exactly I did wrong?
I believe it is, I've never been able to make QBAM stuff fit on worlda without some vertical-horizontal distortion.
It's on her deviantart, just waiting to be grabbedCan someone post the Alexandrian WorldA? I don't want to check 140 threads trying to find it
I believe it is, I've never been able to make QBAM stuff fit on worlda without some vertical-horizontal distortion.
So basically, as you might have heard, neither the QBAM nor the worlda are actually in any well-defined projection that can be identified, and therefore there is no canonical way to convert between them, as far as I know, so you really do kind of just have to do it by eye. This is why the R-QBAM is so needed, and why today I habitually use the XK-BAM and VT-BAM instead of the worlda and QBAM.
well thats annoying ://That would make sense given both were created independently of each other; the Worlda was originally a low quality box map and was later converted into a globe map, though in both cases it's a Robinson Projection, the main reason it probably looks off is how many edits everyone has had to do to it overtime manually as there really aren't a lot of HD Robinson maps; the Q-BAM was IIRC based on a Robinson Projection, but was put together piecemeal and slightly warped to make it look more like a larger Worlda.
I say it's usefull, but it's kinda hard to make it look goodUsefull for showing the actual usable territory of big blob land empires like USA or Russia
Just a heads up: the borders of Libya, Egypt, Sudan, South Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Central African Republic, Chad, Yemen, Oman, and Northern Ireland have the same colors as the coastline, this can, and does, cause confusion.Given the amount of patches I've been doing as well as some changes I haven't posted I figure I should post an updated full map; note this is more or less* as of April 10th, 2024:
Aside from the previous patches it also includes;
-Changed international border color to a slightly different shade of black to prevent confusion when editing.
-Some minor fixes in the Caribbean, namely some changes to some ocean borders as well as to the shape of Bonaire.
-Minor change to the Somalia-Somaliland border and re-adding the internal border for Puntland as it's pulled out of the Federal structure and is now effectively an autonomous region.
-Changed the color of the various autonomies borders from admin. div. border to a different autonomous border color.
*The sources I use for the C.A.R and Syrian Civil War have not posted a new map since late November, the last discreet map for the Ethiopian Civil War was early January and there have been some changes in the Burmese Civil War, but nothing major (IE a few pixels of difference).
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