Isabella and Ferdinand aren't done having children yet, that much I can tell you.
The Marriage of the Century - A Burgundian Timeline
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As I ever had any doubt about that...
Maria and Catalina are still waiting to be born...
But if Maria is still a twin is better do not have any child other ATL Catalina after her...
Because childbirths of twins at the time were really dangerous for the health of the mother...
That would be interesting development about Lorraine.
But I don't think Isabella will have more children other than Catherine after Maria
But I don't think Isabella will have more children other than Catherine after Maria
Maybe that's for the best; twin deliveries really were a pain.
He did try to marry Mary of Burgundy who is in the same age group, that will of course mean he will at least try to claim Portugal if John II's line still fails..and that would be comedy as there would be a war between the spanish backing manuel versus the french wanting the Portuguese crown for themselves.
Chapter 6. Burgundy 1473-75
Chapter 6. Strife and failure.
Charles the Bold stood on top of the world in 1473. He had restored his brother in law to the throne of England, the French had been beaten back and his children were flourishing. Philip of Burgundy, his only son might have a brother the next year as Margaret of York were once more pregnant. Mary was growing into a woman; even little Isabella had gone from a baby in the cradle to a lively toddler. He was once more one of the most powerful rulers in Europe with a mighty realm.
The long-promised invasion of France would come into action in the early 1474, Edward IV of England would amass a army of around 12, 000 men. The idea of the Plantagenets once more being rulers of France still appealed to romantics and nobles and with the mighty duke of Burgundy as an ally, this could be a reality to fight for. However, other events would shatter that illusion even before the english arrived in Calais.
Margaret would give premature birth to a son in late spring, the baby was stillborn. Charles would focus on the Rhinelands for his military actions, resulting in the english forces being alone when they arrived in June. Margaret tried to persuade her brother to invade, but with little success. The loss of her son a few months earlier still weighted on her mind and her spirit was lacking its usual energy. The duke would return from the Rhinelands in July to greet Edward and to plan for the invasion, but that failed as neither man could agree on tactics; Charles wanted for the english to engage the French alone, while he hit them from the east, something that did not appeal to Edward. To make matters even worse, Louis XI of France started a secret negotiation with Edward, something that proved more efficient than Charles’s ideas.
The failing of the invasion was cemented in the Treaty of Picquigny. Louis offered 75,000 crowns as well as an annually pension of 55,000 crowns to Edward in exchange for the English leaving their attempted conquests. To sweeten the deal Princess Elizabeth of York were betrothed to Charles, the dauphin, Louis’s only son. Despite the anger towards Edward, Charles also got a treaty with the French; a ten years truce and the full restoration of his lands. That left him with a full ability to focus on his wars in Lorraine. The heir to Lorraine, Nicholas of Anjou had died in 1474 from a riding accident and Charles were determined to consolidate power there. After spending a Christmas with the duchess and his three children the duke of Burgundy once more left for the war.
The future of Burgundy in 1475 looked both worrisome and hopeful. Margaret had once more conceived at Christmas in Ghent and both spouses were praying for a second son. The battles however did not go very well. While they did not suffer defeats, neither did they win. Charles returned to Brussels in September, three days before Margaret gave birth to a second son at the ducal palace at the 24th. To Charles this boy was the ultimate proof of future victory and the Duke gave the infant, named John, an impressive christening at the Cathedral of St Michael and St Gudula.
Cathedral of St Michael and St Gudula.
Charles held a long speech after the christening to the Estates about how God had favoured him, how victory was behind the corner and that now was not the time to hold back on warfare. The duke, always a skilled rhetorician, managed to raise a large force and returned to Lorraine and Savoy with his new force. Margaret stayed in Brussels with baby John until December when she travelled across Flanders, Brabant and Holland, as well as Malines and Rotterdam. She stayed in the Hauge and Gouda before returning to Ghent.
Charles the Bold stood on top of the world in 1473. He had restored his brother in law to the throne of England, the French had been beaten back and his children were flourishing. Philip of Burgundy, his only son might have a brother the next year as Margaret of York were once more pregnant. Mary was growing into a woman; even little Isabella had gone from a baby in the cradle to a lively toddler. He was once more one of the most powerful rulers in Europe with a mighty realm.
The long-promised invasion of France would come into action in the early 1474, Edward IV of England would amass a army of around 12, 000 men. The idea of the Plantagenets once more being rulers of France still appealed to romantics and nobles and with the mighty duke of Burgundy as an ally, this could be a reality to fight for. However, other events would shatter that illusion even before the english arrived in Calais.
Margaret would give premature birth to a son in late spring, the baby was stillborn. Charles would focus on the Rhinelands for his military actions, resulting in the english forces being alone when they arrived in June. Margaret tried to persuade her brother to invade, but with little success. The loss of her son a few months earlier still weighted on her mind and her spirit was lacking its usual energy. The duke would return from the Rhinelands in July to greet Edward and to plan for the invasion, but that failed as neither man could agree on tactics; Charles wanted for the english to engage the French alone, while he hit them from the east, something that did not appeal to Edward. To make matters even worse, Louis XI of France started a secret negotiation with Edward, something that proved more efficient than Charles’s ideas.
The failing of the invasion was cemented in the Treaty of Picquigny. Louis offered 75,000 crowns as well as an annually pension of 55,000 crowns to Edward in exchange for the English leaving their attempted conquests. To sweeten the deal Princess Elizabeth of York were betrothed to Charles, the dauphin, Louis’s only son. Despite the anger towards Edward, Charles also got a treaty with the French; a ten years truce and the full restoration of his lands. That left him with a full ability to focus on his wars in Lorraine. The heir to Lorraine, Nicholas of Anjou had died in 1474 from a riding accident and Charles were determined to consolidate power there. After spending a Christmas with the duchess and his three children the duke of Burgundy once more left for the war.
The future of Burgundy in 1475 looked both worrisome and hopeful. Margaret had once more conceived at Christmas in Ghent and both spouses were praying for a second son. The battles however did not go very well. While they did not suffer defeats, neither did they win. Charles returned to Brussels in September, three days before Margaret gave birth to a second son at the ducal palace at the 24th. To Charles this boy was the ultimate proof of future victory and the Duke gave the infant, named John, an impressive christening at the Cathedral of St Michael and St Gudula.
Cathedral of St Michael and St Gudula.
Charles held a long speech after the christening to the Estates about how God had favoured him, how victory was behind the corner and that now was not the time to hold back on warfare. The duke, always a skilled rhetorician, managed to raise a large force and returned to Lorraine and Savoy with his new force. Margaret stayed in Brussels with baby John until December when she travelled across Flanders, Brabant and Holland, as well as Malines and Rotterdam. She stayed in the Hauge and Gouda before returning to Ghent.
I just remembered that Charles of Anjou (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_IV,_Duke_of_Anjou), Rene's nephew, is still alive at this moment of the TL and that he is the heir to the Duchy of Anjou, the County of Provence and dynastic rights to the Kingdom of Naples.
He died in 1481 IOTL, but it would be interesting to make him survive ITTL and have children.
He died in 1481 IOTL, but it would be interesting to make him survive ITTL and have children.